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Paris-Nice 2020
« on: March 03, 2020, 16:22 »


Paris-Nice 2020 stages
Stage 1 (Sunday March 8): Plaisir - Plaisir (154km)
Stage 2 (Monday March 9): Chevreuse - Chalette-sur-Loing (166.5km)
Stage 3 (Tuesday March 10): Chalette-sur-Loing - La Châtre (212.5km)
Stage 4 (Wednesday March 11): Saint-Amand-Montrond (15.1km ITT)
Stage 5 (Thursday March 12): Gannat - La Côte-Saint-André (227km)
Stage 6 (Friday March 13): Sorgues - Apt (160.5km)
Stage 7 (Saturday March 14): Nice - Valdeblore La Colmiane (166.5km)
Stage 8 (Sunday March 15): Nice - Nice (113.5km)




Only the future will tell if we witnessed the emergence of a cycling master this past March on the slopes leading to the Col de Turini. These bends, where the careers of rally drivers where forged in the Monte Carlo Rally, also served as a springboard for an ambitious kid chasing after his first prestigious race on European soil. After wearing yellow at Turini and on the Promenade des Anglais, Egan Bernal was crowned victorious a few months later, sporting an even more impressive yellow jersey on the podium of the Champs-Elysées.

“I really started to think that I could win the Tour after my victory at Paris-Nice”, the first Colombian winner of the Grand Boucle admitted with hindsight, knowing that a champion’s path is marked by milestones representing a turning point or stages of progress. The title holder’s analysis echoes the words of other Tour winners, such as Geraint Thomas or even Alberto Contador, who also expressed in similar terms the decisive role of confidence gained in the Race to the Sun.

The lessons learned at the beginning of the season on the French Riviera are by no means premonitions, but a starting point that is always useful in revving up for the Tour de France: days spent facing the wind, testing yourself against the clock, demonstrating your mountain skills early, as well as how calm you are under pressure during descents, will serve as benchmarks in July when it’s 20 degrees warmer. This year, the imaginary bridge linking the two events will be all the more apparent as Nice plays host to the Grand Départ of the Tour.

The fight for the accolades at Paris-Nice, at La Colmiane in particular, will play out as a high-intensity prelude. The expectations set for the Alpes-Maritimes roads are higher than usual...

Christian Prudhomme


So the race is still on apparently the French minster for sports is not expecting crowds so we get the race to the sun.

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Stage 4 ITT





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Pretty tradition route, some long days to get the legs turning over ITT and 3 hard stage for the GC
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #1 on: March 03, 2020, 18:36 »
     An excellent thread starter, JSG.

    Imo, it's a horrible route. The best inclusion being the finish of stage one, the worst, the ruination of the final stage that has consistently produced exciting racing.
     It basically boils down to an ITT and a MTF, with a couple of intermediate stages to season this thin concoction.
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #2 on: March 03, 2020, 18:44 »
    Kind words MV we all know no thought went in to it just had some time to try and help out :D
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #3 on: March 05, 2020, 16:10 »
    https://twitter.com/WielerFlits/status/1235591604737642498

    Circus receive a bonus wildcard to the race. Also teams will allowed 8 riders and not the usual 7.

    So far the teams confirmed not to be riding are Astana, CCC, Mitchelton, Ineos and UAE.
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #6 on: March 05, 2020, 20:58 »
    L'Equipe says van Aert will be racing but #jumbo says they won't?  I am a bit confused now! Help me clear this up:

    Teams particpating + key riders announced
    1. #ag2r Ag2r: Bardet, Naesen
    2. #bahrain Bahrain-McLaren:
    3. #bora Bora-Hansgrohe: Ackerman, Sagan, Konrad
    4. #cofidis Cofidis:  Viviani, Martin
    5. #quickstep Decuninck-Quickstep: Alaphilippe, Bennet
    6. #ef Education First pro cycling: Higuita, Cort
    7. #groupama Groupama-FDJ: Pinot, Noir
    8. #israel Israel Start-up Nation: Politt, Hofstetter
    9. #lotto Lotto Soudal: Ewan, Gilbert
    10. #movistar Movistar team:
    11. #ntt NTT Pro cycling team: Valgren
    12. #arkea Arkea-Samsic: Quintana, Barguil
    13. #jumbo Jumbo-Visma: Roglic/Kruijswick/Bennett, Van Aert
    14. #sunweb Team Sunweb: Bool[1]
    15. #total Total-Direct Energie: Calmejane, Terpstra
    16. #trek Trek-Segafredo: Porte, Pederesen
    17. #nippo Nippo-Delko-Provence
    18. #vital B&B hotels - Vital concept: riders TBA
    19. #wanty Circus-Wanty Gobert: riders TBA

    Teams that have announced they will not be participating
    1. #jumbo  Jumbo-Visma, but they will also participate... (?????!!!?)
    2. #astana Astana
    3. #ineos Ineos
    4. #uae UAE
    5. #movistar Movistar, but they will also participate... (?????!!!?)(???)

    Summing this up, it seems we will be missing some of the usual suspects (#ineos, #uae, +/- #movistar) but there are some unusual additions with a strong team announced here like #bora Sagan/Ackerman,  #arkea Quintana, and possibly the complete A-list for #jumbo?

    I guess it looks like a decent race after all for now - not sure if it is a good idea to have #jumbo there as they look disproportionately strong for the GC competition walkover or walkoviak!

     1. (either present or not, nothing in between)
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #7 on: March 05, 2020, 22:04 »
    L'Equipe says van Aert will be racing but #jumbo says they won't?  I am a bit confused now! Help me clear this up

    they opted out of the Italian races only, not generally
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #8 on: March 06, 2020, 00:10 »
    Michelton Scott out.   Also CCC
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #9 on: March 06, 2020, 14:48 »
    Read something about Jumbo out but not sure 100%
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #11 on: March 06, 2020, 17:52 »
    Race organisers say there will be no contact between riders and public figures on podiums, as well as no press conferences held at Paris-Nice.


    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/special-measures-introduced-at-paris-nice-to-reduce-spread-of-coronavirus-451052
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #12 on: March 06, 2020, 22:32 »
    Race organisers say there will be no contact between riders and public figures on podiums, as well as no press conferences held at Paris-Nice.
    No contact at all? How will they put on leader's jerseys, then? :shh
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    « Reply #13 on: March 06, 2020, 22:40 »
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    « Reply #14 on: March 06, 2020, 22:41 »
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #15 on: March 07, 2020, 11:06 »
    Race organisers say there will be no contact between riders and public figures on podiums, as well as no press conferences held at Paris-Nice.


    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/special-measures-introduced-at-paris-nice-to-reduce-spread-of-coronavirus-451052
    No point in winning a stage or or leading a classification if you don't get a kiss from the podium girls [/70s irony]
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    « Reply #16 on: March 07, 2020, 11:20 »
    No point in winning a stage or or leading a classification if you don't get a kiss from the podium girls [/70s irony]

    Hincapie and Sevilla will be gutted.
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #17 on: March 07, 2020, 14:44 »
    No contact at all? How will they put on leader's jerseys, then? :shh

    Leader's jersey to be replaced with leader's DIY face mask.

    Just think of the sponsorship opportunities!

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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #18 on: March 08, 2020, 08:17 »
    so, seems like this is going to start, and it should be fun right from the beginning. There's a bit of rain and strong wind on the cards to rip the field apart, and if this doesn't help, also the finale is fairly challenging (profile via @raffilpt):



    so something around 1.5k at 6.5% average, but the final 400m are steeper - and on cobbles! :)



    Still ~5k to go from the top, but it's likely to be a good launching pad for late attacks
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #19 on: March 08, 2020, 16:33 »
    it turned out to be a very entertaining stage indeed, with lots of echelon-action early on, resulting in a 2-men group of #deceuninck Julian Alaphilippe and #sunweb Tiesj Benoot going clear with ~30k to go - only to be caught by #bahrain Dylan Teuns and #bora Max Schachmann, who attacked and bridged to the front on the final climb.



    Some of the casualties among the potential GC contenders were #deceuninck Bob Jungels (+2:00 after a late mechanical), #ag2r Romain Bardet, #trek Richie Porte, #cofidis Guillaume Martin (all +2:42) and #arkea Warren Barguil (+14:47, and then disqualified for drafting after a crash)
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #20 on: March 08, 2020, 22:08 »
    Some of the casualties among the potential GC .....and #arkea Warren Barguil (+14:47, and then disqualified for drafting after a crash)

     :S This Bretôn doesn´t function like they used to. Slightest slight of bad weather and he´s off the road. Romandie, Arctic race and now this.

    Can someone please post a picture of Bernard Hinault winning the Neige-Bastogne-Neige ?

    I almost forgot it, he’s riding for which team? A-ha #arkea !
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #21 on: March 09, 2020, 10:18 »
    I almost forgot it, he’s riding for which team? A-ha #arkea !

    On the flip-side though, Quintana and Connor Swift had a very good day for #arkea.

    https://www.team-arkea-samsic.fr/nairo-quintana-lequipe-a-travail/

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    It was a stressful day, with this wind, this rain. When the peloton broke, and we found ourselves in the very first edge Nairo and I, what were we, twelve or thirteen runners, only, at the head of the race! I was in very good company. Yvon told me on the radio to stay by the side of Nairo, and to protect him, while bringing our breakaway group to life by taking over. When there was more wind, Yvon asked me to stay even more alongside Nairo, to work exclusively to protect him. I left my legs (laugh) on the last climb of the day, it was very cold. Nairo in addition in this climb no longer needed me too much to protect him and replace him, if necessary. It was a beautiful day, I gained a lot of experience on this first stage of Paris-Nice. She was rich in lessons for me, when there is wind you can never let your mind "switch", it is necessary to stay constantly focused, and it is difficult and good at the same time.

    Unfortunately for Swift the TDF this year mainly eschews these types of stages and no doubt the weather will be better by then, but he may still have earnt himself a spot in the squad as Quintana's wingman for what flatter stages there are.
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #22 on: March 09, 2020, 11:13 »
    they were strong indeed - Quintana always is though. I mean, it's not like he really had more support for that kind of terrain at Movistar.

    I found a video from yesterday's final climb on Instagram (Source: @josselin_riou's story) by the way, if anyone is interested:

    https://imgur.com/a/4yDKdgX

    So at that point the order in the chase was Matthews, Stybar, Gilbert, Molard, Nibali, Asgreen, Bol, Kragh, Woods, Großschartner, Pinot, Quintana, Higuita, Bilbao, Stuyven, Doubey, Neilands, Politt, Kangert, Nizzolo, Degenkolb, Campenaerts, Arndt, Sagan, Naesen, Lampaert, which may be a bit of an indication, who is in shape for the coming days.
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    « Reply #23 on: March 09, 2020, 11:49 »
    on paper, today's stage should end up in a sprint by the way, although wind could have an effect on the race again, especially in the later parts.

    Most teams didn't find room to bring in their usual leadout men, so (if it's gonna be a sprint) it will be interesting to see, how pairs like #bora Sagan/Ackermann, #sunweb Matthews/Bol, #lotto Degenkolb/Ewan (although Caleb has Kluge and de Buyst as well), #israel Hofstetter/Barbier, #cofidis Touzé/Viviani and so on manage to work together
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #24 on: March 09, 2020, 12:09 »
    On the flip-side though, Quintana and Connor Swift had a very good day for #arkea.

    https://www.team-arkea-samsic.fr/nairo-quintana-lequipe-a-travail/

    Unfortunately for Swift the TDF this year mainly eschews these types of stages and no doubt the weather will be better by then, but he may still have earnt himself a spot in the squad as Quintana's wingman for what flatter stages there are.

    (Warning, yearly anti - arkea rant coming up!  :P I am on vacation schedule!)
    It started almost as a joking little quarrel between me and ... I think it was search? #arkea in it's previous packaging (#fortuneo) saw a few nordic riders pass through the team listing. They joined the team, and started to detoriate, not immediately - but after a while it was obvious they were all becoming worse through riding with that team. Over-focusing on weight for quite young riders is one part of the picture here. At the time,  the French riders on the team didn't really shine either,  and the best rider after Barguil, Pierre-Luc Perrichon,  has now left the team. He was good enough to win a few races on the French circuit and ride the Tour de France mostly in the peloton. Elie Gesbert another rider occasionally noticed. They didn't get any better, either.
    Compared to the best continental team in Norway at the time, #joker, the results were worse (though they did race some races at a higher level) and the rider development bad. There has to be a common denominator for that,  and I think the team management is questionable when this goes on for years. Riders didn't win a contract with #arkea for the upcoming seaon, they were condemned to it.

    I hope the arrival of Nairo and Bouhanni can change that. Nairo is probably more of a force himself than what has been reckoned with at Movistar, where he was a team player. At least most of the time  :P.  However, if the real management of a team is clueless, a couple of determined captains can do a lot on the road that they guys in the backseat office can't screw up every time they try. With a team leadership that is more effective when kept away from the riders, both Nairo and Nacer can improve things a lot. If the old management recongnize their limitations they, should focus on logistics,  handling contracts and sponsors.

    Quintana and Bouhanni are the kind of riders that know how to build a team - at least Bouhanni does that.  At its best[1], the Bouhanni version of the Cofidis train could knock even the WT heavyweights off their tracks, and that was a remarkable achievement for a pro-conti squad. They scored more than a handful stage wins in the lesser Grand Tours (but none in the TdF). Then came a summer when things didn't work out, Bouhanni suffered a really really bad fall in Yorkshire (that must have ebeen close to career-ending, but probably also close to something even worse.) The new management at Cofidis found the team had turned into a Bohanni family-run enterprise, dind't like that and threw them all into the ice box. However, if it really was a Bouhanni-run business, it was a business that achieved results #fortuneo could only dream of.

    Barguil can have some pretty good days on a bike but he is very inconsistent and now fully exposed as far from weatherproof -a nd what's more - he doesn't seem willing or able to be a team leader. There's a lot to be said about Bouhanni (many teams would not want to be seen with him as a leader, I guess...) but he is a leader, for better or worse ,and there aren't many like him (fortunately? ) in the pro team squads. It will be interesting to see if Viviani manages to stitch up the broken seams in the Cofidis jersey like Bohanni did, and indeed if they meet head to head I guess it's a special edition with more than one belt at stake.

    Now I was being nice to them, wasn't I?  :angel

    Back to Paris-Nice 2020..... Bordures day? please?
     1. for example Paris-Nice 2016, stage 4 Juliénas  ›  Romans-sur-Isère
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    « Reply #25 on: March 09, 2020, 18:19 »
    on paper, today's stage should end up in a sprint by the way, although wind could have an effect on the race again, especially in the later parts.

    ...and it did! Another great finale



    #arkea Quintana was involved in a crash and #deceuninck Alaphilippe had a puncture at the wrong time, resulting in a 1:25 loss for both.
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #26 on: March 09, 2020, 19:16 »
    ...and it did!

    What happened to  #lotto Lotto-Soudal? :slow
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    « Reply #27 on: March 09, 2020, 19:30 »
    What happened to  #lotto Lotto-Soudal? :slow

    Ewan had a mechanical, don't know about the others (Gilbert & Degenkolb). Maybe just lacking a bit of freshness after the stage yesterday
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #28 on: March 09, 2020, 20:20 »
    Higuita played it very well indeed today, sat in the middle of the front group trying to keep himself out of the wind, responded when asked and nicked a few seconds off Nibs and Schachmann right at the end. Impressive.
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    Re: Paris-Nice 2020
    « Reply #29 on: March 09, 2020, 21:24 »
    Higuita played it very well indeed today, sat in the middle of the front group trying to keep himself out of the wind, responded when asked and nicked a few seconds off Nibs and Schachmann right at the end. Impressive.

    The 1.63 MONSTER is scary: he climbs, he sprints and now he does crosswinds better than Oliver Naesen  :S I am really uncertain if this guy becomes a GC rider his skill set also points to solid classics potential[1], and maybe something over the #rainbows.
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